Call for Testing: New Bluefin ISOs!

Alright everyone, thanks to the folks at Fyra Labs we are now pretty close to fixing one of the worst parts of our experience, installation! If you’ve heard of Ultramarine Linux then this is made by the same people. So basically a sister project in this Fedoraverse.

Readymade (don’t forget to star the repo!) will be the installer that we will be using for the forseeable future.

Rationale

We purposely didn’t want to make an installer so when we found out that Fyra was working on a bootc back end to Readymade it made sense since we’ve also spent a ton of time with that team at SCaLE.

  • Fyra is working diligently on good bootc support and that’s important to us.
  • Excellent flatpak support in the installer.
  • Considerably smaller ISOs, we’re now about the same size as an Ubuntu ISO.
  • Live session means that GNOME/KDE’s software keyboards will work during installation, especially awesome for handhelds and touch devices
  • Essentially wraps existing tools like bootc install and systemd-repart

We need some other things for better KDE support so for now this is Bluefin only but we expect to enable KDE based images here pretty soon. This also means that they are Live ISOs out of the box, so you can test hardware ahead of time to ensure everything works before committing to Bluefin!

Tracking Progress

AMD/Intel

Nvidia

What to test

We’ve done a few rounds in VMs but need help in the following areas, especially on bare metal:

  • Nvidia support - we need to test acceleration in both the live session and the installation.
  • Secure boot - we still haven’t tested secure boot on the metal and need your help here.

Known Issues

Please browse the known issues list, and if you have anything new to report, please report it! You can also add information to existing issues.

There’s some obvious ones, we don’t have the logos in place and it’s sending you to the Ultramarine docs when you click on stuff, we’ll be working on that and hope to be ready here pretty soon.

We’re hoping to turn on the GTS downloads on the website this week and refresh the torrents as well, thanks for helping out!

Hanging out with Fyra

The Fyra folks are here if you wanna ask them questions:

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Based Ado reference.

In any case, does that mean Titanoboa is based on Readymade?

Do we have any illustrations/gif/videos about the installation at work?

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Actually that’d be a useful thing someone could do, recording a video would help but we’re kind of heads down, maybe someone in here could find the time?

titanoboa generates the live image, which inturn includes the readymade installer, which is an application (rust/helium I think?), which has a bootc backend which basically wraps bootc install. We just need to blast the disk so our use case is very straightforward.

And the crucial bit we were missing, we can now include flatpaks on the ISO, which means that once we’re done anyone with a custom image can have their package list, and then their flatpak list, and then boom, autogenerated ISOs for everyone. And since our actions include rclone, you can push those ISOs anywhere you want since it supports just about everything.

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i can test secure boot, would a video need to be recorded through a captuŕe card or would an external camera work as long as it’s good resolution?

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I think as long as it shows it we shouldn’t be too picky, it just needs to be good enough to embed in the post hahah.

Hey,

I tried to deploy the new Bluefin ISOs on both all AMD and Intel + Nvidia PC’s I have, and both systems failed with the same error. Secure boot enabled/disabled did not make any difference.

Please find attached screenshot of the errors I got on both systems.

Note: I tested both in VM and live session works as expected. Go figure.

SecureBoot on the non-nvidia GTS ISO works on one of my old ChromeBooks running CoreBoot based firmware (ChromeOS Device Firmware | MrChromebox.tech)

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Bugs:

I’m happy to do this on bare metal — if you tell me how :slight_smile:
Move windows around and see if they tear?

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I think that the /dev/disk/by-label/bluefin_boot issue is corruption on when flashing the ISO somehow, it should work fine like a VM, even on real hardware and everything

This is going to be fixed after an ISO bump, yup! Probably today actually

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Its just testing if the nvidia driver you are using is nouveau or not, the graphics performance should be considerably worse on nouveau

Edgar spotted!!!

We (Fyra) have like 10 of those!

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Okay, I did some testing on the live system, and both my Intel A380 that drives my displays, and my Nvidia RTX A4500 that does CUDA work, worked.
I ran my own CUDA tests, as well as GeekBench GPU tests (Intel, Nvidia), and everything worked as it should.

I was not able to install, and created an issue on the readymade github.

Finally, some feedback (sorry for the line patterns, :musical_notes: that’s a moire :musical_notes:) :

  • Serial numbers on drives would be really helpful if you have more than one of a vendor/model number:
  • The indication that a drive is selected is too subtle. Maybe outline the tile with black, or another contrasting color.
  • The confirmation screen needs words, since you are about to wipe a drive.

Let me know if these comments belong somewhere else.

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Nope, these are perfect! Ill send this to the Readymade team :slight_smile:

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I forgot to mention, my wired MX Master mouse did not work.
I connected my Apple Trackpad with a wire, and it worked.

Does it also not work on installed Bluefin? The Live environment should be like 99.9% the same as the installed system, so maybe this is a Bluefin bug?

I use it all the time on bluefin-dx-nvidia:stable (I’m using it now).
I was surprised it didn’t work.

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@tulilirockz just tried to install in a VM, and it failed (differently). Should I open another issue on readymade, or just paste a ton of output here?

Sounds good to me! Open up an issue, we need as much feedback as possible to get this super solid.