I tried to set default zoom to 120% in Firefox settings, but causes performance drop. How can I have larger everything to 120% while maintaining performance?
Changed scaling from Displays setting to 125, but everything is blur now, plus performance drops.
@j0rge of course this is not Bluefin issue, but my eyes hurt with improper scaling. What’s it the Gnome timeframe of Windows-quality scaling?
This is of interest to me as well. My vision’ not great; I wear contacts and use reading glasses for close up, but the laptop monitor is at a distance where I have trouble seeing. I’ve not noticed performance drops with zooming in Chrome. But still, you can change the browser zoom, increase the display setting’s scale, and checck Large Text under Accessibility.
Scale works great, except for the apps that don’t support it (I think they use XWaylalnd).
Large Text is good, except for a different set of apps that don’t support it.
Individual apps may have font settings or zooms.
It ends up all looking like a mess! A separate issue is the minimal window borders making all the windows bleed together. I’ll post about that separately.
I won’t say Ubuntu was perfect but this is definitely worse.
I really want to like this distro! It is working so flawlessly with my Framework hardware. It can just be so hard to see what I’m doing!
Do you notice increased blur when changing any of these settings?
I guess Large Text is the only decent solution.
@NiHaiden, how is the scaling situation in Aurora? F39 running KDE 5 should still have issues, but is the situation improved in F40 with KDE 6?
This is the best we can do for now, Kyle is investigation fractional scaling patches for XWayland so let’s hope for the best. Right now I set large fonts and then set larger fonts in the apps that I use individually.
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im not sure if it is a scaling issue, but i think my shell is not properly scaled for a 1080p monitor…
everything seems kinda big. For example my top panel is bigger than the tab list in vivaldi…
normally i would expect everything to be a bit smaller at 1080p
For comparisons i have taken a few screenshots. I hope you can see what i mean.
Can you post a pic of your Display Settings so we can see what you have it set at?
@j0rge
oh sure! as it is the default resolution of the monitor and also without the scaling setting changed.
Maybe better to know:
i run the internal display of my FW13 at 125% scaling. maybe it is confused between the two for some reason
That’s the thing. Bluefin looks great! Fractional scaling has been hit or miss on Fedora 39 GNOME, Fedora KDE, Windows 10, Ubuntu 22.04 and 24.04. I usually need 125% or 150%. It’s impossible for me to do side-by-side but 125 is often pretty blurry. 150% on 24.04 was very good. But 125 on Bluefin with Accessibility/Large Text and some zoom on Chrome is very nice. There’s no blurriness at all! I attribute this to yoptimal drivers for my Framework 13 AMD but maybe it’s just clearer default fonts.
But Large Text is mostly only GNOME apps. Xwayland app text is sometimes tiny. I’ve run into tiny text when running older apps on Windows 10, so I know the transition to higher resolutions is a universal issue. I’m sure this is aggravating for an OS/DE devs to figure out, because a lot of it is due to the apps. But text sizes seemed more consistent in Ubuntu. My wild guess is that .debs drawing on common libraries might give a more similar look than flatpaks. Wild guess.
But to reiterate, GNOME apps look superb in every resolution. I’m optimistic that Bluefin could become a go-to distro for Frameworks.
I’m sure this is tough for developers
I was looking at different apps and settings. 125% scale on Bluefin is VERY clear. I like it a lot. It can stream 4K video from Plex and it looks very nice and runs well. I realized that if I run 125% with the Large Text, it can actually make it feel worse. Now you have nice larger text in GNOME apps mixed with tiny legacy XWayland apps making it very jarring to switch from one window to another. I feel like things were better on Ubuntu, but that’s probably because 125% was a bit blurry so I usually used 150%. I wish I could do side by side comparisons, but I only have one laptop.
On the right, you see GNOME Files with the Accessibility/Large Text setting enabled next to Double Commander, also a file manager, using XWayland and not affected by the Large Text or Scale settings. It gets a bit annoying!
On my desktop I usually run text at 150%. You can set this in gnome tweaks to 1.5 scaling.
On my laptop I generally use 125% display scaling and I try and force things to use Wayland instead of XWayland. For me that is usually forcing electron applications to run in Wayland and lean towards WebApps over some electron apps that refuse to scale. Some apps are still blurry like Spotify. This does mean you have the fun of looking for native gtk applications and there are quite a few good ones.
Aurora doesn’t quite have this problem since kde will let XWayland windows scale themselves. But if the app isn’t aware, it will be tiny.
It does get a bit frustrating when there are so many factors and settings that can change the font size. It sounds a bit intractable, but yeah, maybe it will improve as the transition to Wayland continues. AFAIK, I’m not using any electron apps but I’m not sure how to tell. I found the setting to force Wayland in Chrome, at least.
I installed Spotify via Flathub, and yeah, it is blurry. But the Plex app can direct play 4K video without any stuttering or visual artifacts, which is more than I can say for Fedora 39 or Ubuntu 22.04 
Earlier I mentioned tiny text in Double Commander. Deep in its settings, I found where you can adjust its fonts. So problem solved there. 
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I’ve just tested Aurora, which definitely handles scaling better. I just set scaling to 125%. However, I can not use Aurora for daily driving for these reasons.
I want to love this distro too, and my framework. But it’s so hard to make it a daily driver between this and the touchpad gestures giving me carpal tunnel.
My work mac gestures are so much more precise and never a scaling issue. Not a knock on bluefin, really just a sad state of Linux in general. I want to run this but I can’t get these few things to work well and I have to always go back to Mac 
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