Bazzite Wayland NVidia Settings missing menus

[RobsSteamNvidiaDeck]

I may switch from bazzite, to either this one, or a arch based linux, since problems in wayland, or going to have to install X11 and disable wayland, I think its what’s causing most of the linux problems, I am having on my pc with the 3D card, and monitor. Do the titles need to be short here, I noticed title editing happening, in any case, I am looking at this, besides Regata OS , I used Garuda Linux before, I am not sure if its wayland based or has X11 included, it does matter since I think the nvidia rtx 30xx cards are more stable under X11, as I think wayland is still having problems, with nvidia hardware, I feel like the bug reports about graphic problems are coming from the use of wayland, I could be wrong but I don’t think I am. I used Garuda arch based linux before, the only thing about it that I don’t like is the desktop theming of the colors they picked for that distro, otherwise its good, but is also one that doesn’t like secure boot on like Regata OS. Screenshots of Nvidia Settings here come from Regata OS not bazzite or Garuda. I may go back to Bazzite if these things are ever fixed, I guess it depends on what’s causing the problems, on my older desktop, never tried it on my alienware since there is no live bootup, and I don’t plan to install linux to this alienware r16 anytime soon, it may support it, but I am not sure about my monitor, which is the thing besides xbox app and the cross compatible games that keep me on windows 11 that maybe DRM games, for that desktop’s gaming for now. I do like the idea of Steam Deck gaming on nvidia hardware don’t get me wrong, I love that feature, but its possible to turn that on in Garuda linux since its based on arch linux, and if you search the web for arch linux steam deck mode gaming, there is some helpful information online about manually installing, it that also talks about installing steam deck mode to the ps4 console which I don’t plan to try on my ps4 console anytime soon.

I found an option that doesn’t force Wayland on Nvidia and seems to have more functionality from the Nvidia configuration, such as OpenGL and graphic information, including Vulkan, if that’s used for gaming.

I don’t mind secure boot being on, but it’s possible to turn it on after installing it in distro based on openSUSE, as tumbleweed normally has that on, but spin off Linux distro’s don’t always support it, I think, if my default it’s not simple supported as being on sometimes it’s a bit harder to enable it afterwards without breaking something in the install. As for the Sleep mode didn’t work from live KDE Plasma mode, but when I turned my monitor off and back on, the desktop image was still there, where bazzite lost the signal when the monitor was off and was not able to get it back on during the same session again I think Wayland is the thing at fault but I could be wrong. I’m sure about sleep mode, but when I put it to sleep running USB, it didn’t show a no signal message; instead, it just had a black screen, so I guess that’s progress.

I also downloaded Aurora Nvidia open image and the bazzite Nvidia open images to if the problem was the official NVidia drivers. I think Wayland might be the problem with the bad graphics in steam gaming mode or sleep and monitor if turn off and on not getting a signal. Enabling GPU fan settings seems to work from Regata OS whereas under Bazzite, it failed to manually turn on the GPU fans in the same NVidia config app Gui, the only difference here is by default Regata OS seems to use X11 not Wayland. I’m not sure if that setting is needed but works under Regata OS. Some of the graphic errors in Steam gaming mode seem to be related to Wayland, but I could be wrong. For instance, 4K in X11 shows 60Hz, 120Hz, and 144Hz, Wayland display under 4K shows 30Hz, which I don’t my monitor supports that anyway, not even a thing under windows 11 4k display its 60hz never set at 30hz like Wayland has; it should be 60Hz in Wayland but it’s not that by default either an error, officially I don’t think this monitor supports 30hz mode. one is based on openSUSE Tumbleweed, and unlike Tumbleweed, it doesn’t work with secure boot on by default, but it is a gaming-based Linux distro.

I consider this a solution unless else posts about it. It seems to me that Wayland might be the problem, or the Nvidia drivers that Wayland uses are official ones instead of Nvidia open drivers. From my testing so far, it seems like Wayland is the problem and has not yet been fixed to work correctly with Nvidia drivers, but that’s just my opinion.

*My solution to this is either to use the NVIDIA open drivers or to use Regata OS if, once installed, it fixes problem. This one seems more complete. The only thing it’s missing is the gaming for OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. I will look into to see if I manually install that on OpenSUSE. Otherwise, I will just run Steam in Big Picture mode, which is kind of the same thing as Steam gaming mode. cannot see much of a difference between them. *

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Applications have severe tearing or drop signal entirely when running full screen · Issue #2285 · ublue-os/bazzite

M28U Gigabyte 4k monitor losing signal in bazzite linux distro, does not happen in windows 11 or 10 with nvidia drivers. bazzite-nvidia-stable-amd64, Update: Refer to my second post. The problem appears to be related to the Wayland session, not the X11 session. During live bootup, the default X11 session did not exhibit the “no signal” issue. Although sleep mode was not functional during live bootup, turning the monitor off and back on worked, and the desktop image remained visible on the screen. · Issue #2283 · ublue-os/bazzite

[cornstalk]

you’re on wayland so you wont get as many “x server” settings in the nvidia control app.

Sorry I skipped over a lot of your post but if you want x11 you can always start an x session again.

I’m not sure what you mean when you say that nvidia doesnt support vulkan, all of that seems to work fine on my machine.

Gaming mode is buggy as shit on nvidia though. I’m not really sure if anything will fix that without nvidia driver updates though. Yes, it’s probably a wayland issue.

If you want a better gaming mode experience on nvidia, try using the new steam deck nvidia image. That seemed to work just fine for me, but I also use my bazzite as an OS daily driver so I ended up waiting until i can figure out how to fix gamescope on the nvidia-open images

[RobsSteamNvidiaDeck]

thanks for that info, next time I am in linux I try and switch to X11, it will not fix my problem with the monitor, it works fine, as long as you don’t put pc in sleep mode under linux or power off the monitor, I had a problem where even in X11 the monitor loses the signal. even if I connect its HDMI to my laptop running linux, if I power off the monitor, there still is a problem where it had not gotten a display again, it happened like at least one from the laptop connection, not sure why I had to renable the connection in the display settings, like turn it off and on again, the laptop display itself didn’t have this problem. for some reason I was thinking the default install only had wayland but if I recall now it has both that and X11, so yes, I switch into x11 all the gaming features are show under it in nvidia settings, for some reason nvidia settings under wayland do not show all the features, but they are in X11 only like vulkan shows up under nvidia settings in X11 but not wayland nvidia settings doesn’t show the same stuff depending on which x session you are in, I guess thats normal for linux , the only other problem I have had, is after switching global themes in kde plasma it seems to freeze the desktop where it doesn’t change and load the theme, I had to do a control alt delete and log off then back in during the wayland session, in order to change the themes to other ones that I had download from global themes in kde plasma, is that a bug? its seems to do it in both bazzite and garuda on my laptop pc. my gigabyte M28U monitor firmware was last updated in 2022, and amazon seems to only sell used models of it now, no problems with the monitor in windows, but linux is another story, since I get that no signal problem in linux sessions, either from putting pc to sleep or turning off the monitor from its settings.

I cannot let linux go into sleep mode

I think some new monitors have a “deep sleep” mode or similar which you may be able to turn off in the OSD

more information on monitor, I had posted to the other users reply today, I shared hardware detail on it, if that's any help here

@RobsSteamNvidiaDeck

M28U gigabyte

Amazon.com: GIGABYTE M28U 28" 144Hz Gaming Monitor, 3840 x 2160 SS IPS Display, 1ms (GTG) Response Time, 9‎4% DCI-P3, VESA Display HDR400, FreeSync Premium Pro, 1x Display Port 1.4, 2x HDMI 2.1 (M28U-SA) : Electronics

M28U Gaming Monitor Key Features | Monitor - GIGABYTE Global

this is the monitor in question, I don’t know if it has a deep sleep mode, its last firmware update was Jun 20, 2022, so its a few years old.

Brand	GIGABYTE
Screen Size	28 Inches
Resolution	4K UHD 2160p
Aspect Ratio	16:9
Screen Surface Description	Matte

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About this item

• 28” 3840x2160 IPS Display with 144Hz Refresh Rate, 1ms (GTG) Response Time.Aspect Ratio: 16:9.Specific uses for product - Business
• Viewing Angle (L/R) (CR>=10) is 178°/178°; Brightness (typ.) is 300 cd/m2
• Smooth Gameplay with AMD FreeSync Premium Pro
• Studio Grade VESA Display HDR400 and 94% DCI-P3 (120% sRGB) Color Gamut
• GIGABYTE Classic Tactical Features with OSD Sidekick

product details from gigabyte's website on specs of monitor if this helps

# M28U Gaming Monitor

* [Key Features](https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M28U#kf)
* [Specification](https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M28U/sp#sp)
* [Support](https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M28U/support#dl)
* [Gallery](https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M28U/gallery#gallery)
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* Panel Size (diagonal)

28" SS IPS

* Display Viewing Area (HxV)

631.928 x 359.78 (mm)

* Panel Backlight/ Type

Edge type

* Display Surface(non-glare/ glare)

Non-glare

* Color Saturation

94% DCI-P3/ 120% sRGB

* True Resolution

3840 x 2160 (UHD)

* Pixel Pitch

0.16 (H) x 0.16 (V)

* Brightness

300 cd/m2 (TYP)

* Contrast Ratio

1000:1

* Viewing Angle

178°(H)/178°(V)

* Display Colors

8 bits

* Response Time

1ms GTG / 2ms MPRT

* Refresh Rate

144Hz
120Hz for Console Game*

* HDR

VESA Display HDR400

* Flicker-free

Yes

* HBR3

Yes

* Connectivity

HDMI 2.1 (support 4K 144Hz 4:4:4 @ DSC enabled or 4K 144Hz 4:2:0) x2
Display port 1.4 (DSC) x1
USB Type-C x1

* Earphone Jack

Yes

* Speaker

3W x2

* Unique Features

OSD Sidekick**
Aim Stabilizer Sync
Black Equalizer
Dashboard
Crosshair
Timer
Counter
Auto-Update
KVM
6 axis Color Control
Smart OD

* USB port(s)

USB 3.0 x3

* Power Type

Built-in

* AC Input Max

115W

* Power Saving Mode

0.5W

* Power Off Mode

0.3W

* Voltage

AC 100-240V ~ 50/60Hz

* Tilt(angle)

-5°~+20°

* Swivel(angle)

N/A

* Pivot(angle/direction)

N/A

* Height Adjustment (mm)

130mm

* VESA Wall Mounting(mm)

100*100mm

* Kensington lock

Yes

* Phys. Dimension with Stand(WxHxD)

636.5*534.2*193.6

* Phys. Dimension w/o stand (WxHxD)

636.5*372.3*63.1

* Box Dimension (WxHxD)

890*510*148

* Net Weight with stand (Esti.)

6.93 (kg)

* Net Weight without stand (Esti.)

5.18 (kg)

* Gross Weight (Esti.)

9.7 (kg)

* Accessories

Power cable/HDMI cable/DP cable/USB cable/QSG/Warranty card

* Note

*HDMI2.1 supports PS5 and Xbox Series X at 4K UHD@120Hz (4:2:0)
** To enable OSD Sidekick, it requires connection between PC and monitor with USB (A-Male to B-Male) cable.

[RobsSteamNvidiaDeck]

@cornstalk

new steam deck nvidia image

it only works on my desktop, as my laptop uses legacy nvidia 3D card, so its not support on that, I tried it on my desktop, problem with side menu and text getting distoried to the point its not readable, no problem with game images on my 3D card in my desktop, I only notice a side menu problem where the text in the menu for settings, or switching to the desktop mode, become unreadable, when I had tried their new steam gaming mode iso images, I had already downloaded them to my pc, and backup on my external usb drive.
it also I seen the same problem with the menu and the side text in their big picture mode, it happened under that too on my nvidia 3D cards, I tried big picture mode on my legacy laptop, I got the same type of problem as their new steam deck nvidia image, when I had downloaded it.

how often do they update their iso images, is it like weekly? I have not downloaded few versions of it yet, I was not sure what’s the update since they label the iso images the same file names, without a date stamp on them, its hard to tell if they update them or not often?

the other problem or I guess its a feature, when powering and booting up the kernel into the new steam deck mode, I notice it seems to run verifying installion each time, at least for one of those images on my desktop pc, I don’t recall I think it was the kde plasma and not the gnome version of it but I am not sure, I had downloaded both images. again that text image distortion bug seems to be in both big picture mode, and steam deck mode, the same problem happened in both of them with the left side menu, so I don’t know what caused it, if I recall changing some settings seem to make it stable in big picture mode, when I tried messing with the steam settings on my laptop. again my laptop cannot do steam deck nvidia beta images at all, since it has a legacy nvidia 3D card in it.

also was wondering why they didn’t do open nvidia images are the steam deck nvidia images, is their a reason it only has offical nvidia drivers, and not the fedora open nvidia drivers with it? does one set of drivers work better than the other, was wondering about that, I don’t know if the nvidia open driver have the monitor problem, I think it only in the other version of the nvidia drivers maybe, I didn’t get around to testing the nvidia open drivers on their nvidia rtx 3070 card yet.

[inffy]

@RobsSteamNvidiaDeck

how often do they update their iso images, is it like weekly? I have not downloaded few versions of it yet, I was not sure what’s the update since they label the iso images the same file names, without a date stamp on them, its hard to tell if they update them or not often?

This doesn’t really matter, the ISO is just the installer and after that you just normally update your system to get the newest versions etc.

the deck images on nvidia can be buggy and its pretty much dependent on nvidia fixing issues on their drivers (mostly)

[RobbieOnLinux]

It does matter for the ISO images because sometimes there are bugs in the installer images that affect how the image is written to the hard drive. Additionally, if they update the ISO image, there will be less updating to do afterward with the rpm-ostree update command. Yes, the deck image with NVIDIA can be buggy.

I used my Google login today instead of GitHub, which has a different name or account connected with it. Hopefully, that's not a problem. I guess I used before using GitHub, as they are not connected in the same way. RobsSteamNvidiaDeck is my GitHub login, which is not connected with the Google login with passkey access from Windows 11. this account seems to be older than the github access, in any case.

There appears to be a bug with the text on left side of the screen the Nvidia images, rendering it unreadable at times. in both steam deck nvidia bazzite images and big picture mode in steam same problem in both of them. I believe this issue may be related to the Nvidia drivers rather than the open-source Nvidia drivers provided Fedora Unlike the Nvidia drivers, the Fedora Nvidia drivers do not trigger the KDE security information, which seems to mark the system as tainted when using drivers.

As far as I know, Nvidia has no involvement in the of Fedora's open-source Nvidia drivers. Fedora's open-source drivers do not taint the kernel in KDE Plasma security screen.

In firmware security under Info Center if it says the kernel is tainted, it to the use of the official Nvidia drivers, but it says the kernel is untainted, it is using open-source Nvidia drivers. I don't know how much that really matters in the long run, but Bazzite's Steam Deck Nvidia images do not use the open-source Nvidia drivers but the other one. Does it matter, and why do they not use Fedora's Nvidia open-source driver instead since it does not taint the kernel?

Once you download install the Bazzite Steam NVIDIA images, is it possible on the installed OS to switch from the official drivers to Fedora’s NVIDIA drivers in desktop mode? Steam Deck work with Fedora’s open-source NVIDIA drivers? If you do, is there a way to do it with rpm-ostree? I have not tried switching the NVIDIA drivers on the installed version had done. Has anyone yet tried, and is it more stable the open source nvidia drivers in Steam Deck gaming mode? Or will crash or something else? If they install the NVIDIA open drivers, will it remove the other NVIDIA drivers from your system? Again, I am it would be done with rpm-ostree if it’s even possible to do that and keep things working?

since there is no steam deck nvidia open beta drivers versions of kde or gnome images.

I am curious if Fedora’s NVIDIA open-source drivers will exhibit the same noticeable bugs as the official NVIDIA drivers. Additionally, I wonder if they are compatible with the NVIDIA RTX 30xx and 40xx series cards. I still have an Alienware R16 with an NVIDIA RTX 40xx series card. If the drivers ever exit beta, I consider switching or dual-booting Linux on it. I am still contemplating this decision. I am uncertain if the fan system will function properly, given that the Intel i9 has a water-based cooling system. Furthermore, games are typically managed by the Alien Command Center, which controls the gaming mode for video games under Windows 11. am unsure if Linux is compatible with Dell’s Alienware systems.

Question about downloading the iso images normally do you use a download manager?

When downloading distro images, do you typically use Xtreme Download Manager (XDM), or JDownload Manager or free download manager in windows or linux? I usually use one of these. I recently started using Xtreme Download Manager (XDM) after previously using JDownloader, but it doesn’t work for everything, such as SourceForge Linux images, which are often blocked in JDownloader.for downloading large OS with a download manager rather than directly Edge, as Wi-Fi disconnects can be problematic, and depending on the size of the image, it can a few hours on my home connection. also used free download manager before.

I use the Edge browser's Alt-I keyboard feature for Copilot rewriting support when writing posts. AI generated text. sometimes but not always, since it can make mistakes too, error is to be human etc… which I notice its not perfect yet.

real steam decks don't have secure boot enable does having the secure boot enable on desktop pc's running bazzite deck nvidia beta images cause any graphic problems? I just was wondering about this

information below comes from GitHub - ublue-os/bazzite: Bazzite is a custom Fedora Atomic image built with cloud native technology that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices - including your favorite handheld. which says that real steam decks don’t use secure boot, so should we turn it off on our desktop pc’s or laptop if you have one that supports their new bazzite deck nvidia images? I don’t own a real steam deck so I didn’t know this info.

Secure Boot

Warning

Steam Deck Users: The Steam Deck does not come with secure boot enabled and does not ship with any keys enrolled by default. Do not enable this unless you absolutely know what you’re doing.

Secure boot is supported with our custom key. The pub key can be found in the root of this repository here. If you’d like to enroll this key prior to installation or rebase, download the key and run the following:

sudo mokutil --timeout -1 sudo mokutil --import secure_boot.der

For users already on a Universal Blue image, you may instead run ujust enroll-secure-boot-key.

If asked for a password, use universalblue.

[inffy]

@RobbieOnLinux

It does matter for the ISO images because sometimes there are bugs in the installer images that affect how the image is written to the hard drive.

No it really doesn’t. The actual installer part of the thing is not really touched. So there are no changes on the actual installer.

@RobbieOnLinux

Additionally, if they update the ISO image, there will be less updating to do afterward with the rpm-ostree update command. Yes, the deck image with NVIDIA can be buggy.

Not really, the update will be the newest image whatever is the current one at that point and the size is the image size.

This is not like in “normal distro” where you just update the single packages and if you have a newer ISO you get less packages. We use chunks, so you might end not needing to download so many chunks during an update but still, the ISOs date is not really relevant

[RobsSteamNvidiaDeck]

Ok, thanks, have you used SGDBoop - SteamGridDB

For adding artwork for non-Steam games, such as Epic Games Launcher titles, in the steam software it has a linux port, might be good to add to the bazzite steam deck nvidia beta images maybe if its not included yet?

I know at least on windows 11 it does not seem to add descriptions to the games at all, but they are launchable anyway. Also I have the android app steam link installed, for my non-steam video games, also I have a lg tv oled c4 4k with blutooth display connection, there is no steam link app in its tv smart apps, but its almost not needed since you can connect the screen as either mirror or extended for using with steam with the blutooth video out settings, seem very good for game playing, but I was wondering if steam link android and the blutooth video out on the tv, would have the same gaphics nvidia drivers bugs from the bazzite steam deck nvidia images, are there graphic bugs in both blutooth video out, and steam link software as you might see on your monitor at home, this was the last question I needed to ask about it.