To celebrate our recent appearances at SCaLE22x and Framework’s 2.0 Launch Event, we’ll be answering questions in this thread for the next few days. Ask us anything!
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Will Bazzite-deck have a way to unlock GNOME keyring by default after switching to desktop mode?
That would be defeating the purpose. If you don’t want to have to unlock it you can simply set no password.
Very well presented!! Great talk!
Here’s the other great universal blue by @dogphilosopher (and someone else I’m sorry?) talk that was mentioned in the above Bazzite video and apparently came just before it:
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Are you planning to integrate appman or AM into bazzite for appimage management? Or at least listing it in the docs? In my experience this is a way better appimage management tool comparing to e.g. gearlever. Lack of GUI is certainly a drawback, but autoupdates, topgrade integration and support for newer types of appimages is in my opinion in line what bazzite tries to provide.
Other than that what are your opinions about playtron and OpenGamepadUI? Will you try providing a console image with the latter someday?
We are not, Gear Lever will remain until at which time we can drop all AppImage support permanently. Without desktop integration, auto update support, dependency deduplication, and a modern copy of libfuse that isn’t full of security holes they remain something to be avoided when possible.
We love the work that is being done on OpengamepadUI and similar, but Bazzite will remain dependent on Steam for the foreseeable future.
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Yeah I see the point. The AM as well as Gearlever are bandaids and not solutions for the problem of the packaging format, so switching one for the other is kinda meaningless.
I saw some appimages that, at least what devs put in READMEs, work without fuse 2, but that is a exception, not a rule. Nonetheless I think the idea of appimages will prevail or evolve, because people need programs that can be easily installed and cannot be on flathub, e.g. yuzu, so dropping current implementation (not the idea) of appimages is a reasonable take. But it also is the reason that i recommend Appman, because it can handle these newer types and also other types of portable apps, e.g. flatimage
On the topic of OpengamepadUI I know it’s way too early to push it to production, so sticking with Steam is only logical outcome.
Hi. I am not using Bazzite, but we are using Bluefin and Aurora.
Since I understand that eventually appimage support will be dropped, is this also going to be the case for the aforementioned variants?
I thought appimages are part of uBlue philosophy and will be there to stay..
Yes, appimages are almost directly against what we’re trying to do here – drag the Linux desktop kicking and screaming to the future.
Bluefin will be the first to drop it, probably alongside Aurora.
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Can you post what appimages are you using? Maybe there exists simple alternatives (flatpak, distrobox…).
I have to mention that I am using Aurora, I don’t do any gaming at all.
At the moment I am using Joplin as an appimage. I also use Geary (but I update manually) I was able to see that there is an unofficial Flatpak that may or may not be available in the future.
Megasync app, was removed from Flathub, probably lost support, but this was easily to install in BoxBuddy as they also have installation scripts for all major distros.
With Zotero, I was able to pin it to an old version of the Flatpak via Warehouse, since newer releases crash, and I need it with LibreOffice integration.
I was not able to install Zotero in an BoxBuddy Arch container via AUR. It’s not that easy or intuitive to use distros in these containers as installing more that it comes with from the start requires advanced knowledge on packages installations.
I will move to the Flatpak version of Joplin, however, I am not sure if it will support all its features and work properly (not as Zotero). The Zotero maintainer said, some time ago, on the bug track that he is clueless on what is crashing.. so there’s that with Flatpak..
Flatpaks are still lacking a lot of support in many ways, I feel like major distros such as Fedora, Arch, Suse etc should donate more money to Flatpak development.
I did not see anything on the official website as news about this. It’s more of a shock, in a way, as I thought uBlue is all for OS agnostic app formats, which Appimages are, and that future auto-update for them will be figured out in the future. But now I understand this is not the case.
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Well we have never said that AppImages are going to be supported for ever.
Officially flatpaks are the supported app format. Then we have brew for cli stuff and distroboxes for “special cases”.
That said, I’d assume user can still just add their own favorite AppImage manager and still just use it? Well, depending on if AppImage supports the version of libfuse available on the image, I suppose.
Zotero works in my Ubuntu container. Maybe try the deb package but not the one on AUR.
Right now we explicitly ship an insecure and dangerous copy of libfuse. When that’s dropped appimages will stop working and the only fix would be to either create a distrobox with that library to run appimages through, putting yourself at risk, or layering that library, putting yourself at risk.
It’ll be something we explicitly don’t support going forward. Bazzite will be the last to make this change because there are so many steam deck related tools that ship as appimages only at this time.
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Bazzite is announced as “coming soon to Apple Silicon”. What does it mean? What are the remaining steps to get there? Will it run only macos games? Or PC games that are already running through Proton?
… is there a release date you can share?.. or a target period at least? 
Thanks a lot and congrats to the whole team on the job done with Bazzite!
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It will kind of Asahi Linux but Fedora Atomic based.
Sorry I’m a noob. But does that mean it won’t use any code fro Asahi Linux?