Upcoming changes to Bluefin packages for the F42 release

[SkrisRao]

While waiting for fedora 42 to be installed; i tried flatpak update. but got this response: ujust install-system-flatpaks
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
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Looking for matches…
error: org.gnome.baobab/x86_64/stable is already installed from remote fedora
error: Recipe install-system-flatpaks failed with exit code 1

P.S. I regularly update flatpak using the command flatpak update and install flatpak with command flatpak install [desired app]

[inffy]

On what image are you on? As it looks like you have the fedora flatpak repo also on your system which should not be there

[SkrisRao]

Pulling manifest: ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bluefin-dx:latest
Importing: ostree-image-signed:docker://ghcr.io/ublue-os/bluefin-dx:latest (digest: sha256:cb35d0c6722a712150800f7fcf445ba57ff6cd13cebea27f7717f5cd44d9a0fe)

(Header from recent update)

[phreed]

Maybe my suggestion is too confusing.
I am suggesting a separate justfile and accompanying ojust (old-just) command to access them.
The idea is to separate the ujust commands which have some permanence from the version specific commands ojust.

[fenglengshun]

Honestly, do we / can we just have something like a tray app a la Matray or some other way that could be used to deliver messages to users?

When an image is being a distro and having a change in opinion, it isn’t a problem if the user is informed. We likely should never be like Arch and have some catastrophe that you don’t want people to update to, but just in case and even for something like this, it’d be nice if we can be sure a notice is sent to the user.

[j0rge]

We have an issue for this filed somewhere, the idea is to have an rss reader preconfigured for announcements, etc. but no one has accepted that side quest yet.

The problem with adding things like this is we have to touch the user’s space and experience has taught us that it’s better to just leave it than try to bake in a service unit, etc.

We know flatpak lifecycle management is coming upstream at some point, and usually it’s just a new set of opinions on default apps, so it’s not the end of the world. But also mildly infuriating lol.

[JFK]

I have Veracrypt and Brave Browser added to rpm-ostree. Will I need to reset/remove these before upgrading?

Also, is there a date planned on when the upgrade will take place or is it kind of just whenever the Devs feel comfortable releasing it?

[CyberOto]

Hey,

I did an upgrade to bluefin:latest, on VM, with few layered packages and it worked for me. To be on the safe side, you can reset, upgrade and layer them back.

Flatpak Brave works fine for my needs.

This topic is something to keep in mind:

ComposeFS information for F42 upgrades

Hello everyone! I’ll have more details in when the F42 announcement but wanted to give you a heads up now so you can prepare if need be. Due to the adoption of composefs by default in Fedora 42 that upgrade is likely a one way trip. That means once you upgrade to stable when it is released that you will NOT be able to rebase back to gts. However you can disable composefs, we do not recommend this unless you upgraded and found a critical problem and need to go back: sudo rpm-ostree kargs --appe…

There is some info about the planned date part that you can check at the bottom of this topic:

Bluefin GTS is now based on Fedora 41

[KubeCon] Guardians, today Bluefin GTS switched its base from Fedora 40 to Fedora 41. The team has been using F41 based builds throughout the last cycle, and we feel it’s mature and ready to serve you over the next six months. GNOME 47 is a banger, and I think you’ll dig it. We say goodbye to F40, it has served us well! [Bluefin GTS] You’ll receive this update during your next update window, or you can run an update manually. Here’s the major Fedora release information: Fedora Magazine: W…

@j0rge

See you in a few weeks when bluefin:stable migrates to F42. We can’t give you a solid date because we automated it to happen automatically when CoreOS flips the switch. When it comes to overengineering laziness, we spared no expense!

Feel free to ask questions!

Hope this helps.

[ZacAttack]

Kind of curious why the change to refine. I might have missed something or did they announce gnome tweaks is just gone?

I asked because it seems like there are just some things missing. I just assume it’s because Fedora 42 just came out. I’d really like to figure out how to change the folder icons in Files and it looks like it’s just grayed out in Refine

That or I’m in the wrong place again. Been a minute since I’ve done it. Came back to Gnome because I do like bluefin a lot and knew it would be the place to check out Gnome 48

[tunix]

I’m on bluefin:stable but my latest update removed these packages. The flatpaks aren’t automatically installed. Is this expected?

Also, do you know whether solaar flatpak works with previous configuration?

[inffy]

You need to run the ujust install-system-flatpaks

[tunix]

I did but Solaar and Scanner were not installed afterwards.

[inffy]

Did the script/ujust give any errors? both of the apps are on the flatpak list so they should get installed.

[tunix]

The script doesn’t output anything. These are the packages listed:

❯ curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ublue-os/bluefin/main/iso_files/system-flatpaks.txt
org.gtk.Gtk3theme.adw-gtk3
org.gtk.Gtk3theme.adw-gtk3-dark
com.github.rafostar.Clapper
io.gitlab.adhami3310.Impression
com.github.tchx84.Flatseal
io.github.flattool.Ignition
io.github.flattool.Warehouse
com.github.PintaProject.Pinta
org.gnome.baobab
org.gnome.Calculator
org.gnome.Calendar
org.gnome.Characters
org.gnome.clocks
org.gnome.Connections
org.gnome.Contacts
org.gnome.DejaDup
org.gnome.Papers
com.mattjakeman.ExtensionManager
org.gnome.FileRoller
org.gnome.font-viewer
org.gnome.Logs
org.gnome.Loupe
org.gnome.Maps
org.gnome.NautilusPreviewer
org.gnome.World.PikaBackup
org.gnome.TextEditor
org.gnome.Weather
io.missioncenter.MissionCenter
org.mozilla.firefox
org.mozilla.Thunderbird
page.tesk.Refine

[j0rge]

We had to move the flatpak list due to making the new ISOs so this one isn’t up to date, we’re tracking it here: ujust install-system-flatpaks needs to point to new list of flatpaks · Issue #2407 · ublue-os/bluefin · GitHub

[realgrm]

@j0rge

Devpod flatpak (about to be published)

If you want to update the link, it is published on flathub: Devpod

[b6d]

I just started using Bluefin, that’s why I’ll post this here rather than creating a PR for the documentation (still trying to figure everything out)…

I tried to switch to the EurKey keyboard layout and found this FAQ:

Frequently Asked Questions | Bluefin

Since gnome-tweaks was removed and Refine does not have this option, I had to find another way to achieve this. What solved it for me (just in case this helps someone else):

Run

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.input-sources show-all-sources true

in a terminal and then use search the regular Gnome keyboard settings for eurkey and choose the English layout.

If that’s not the correct place to post this information, feel free to correct me and tell me where to put it.

[j0rge]

Let’s toss it in the FAQ for now in the docs! Thanks!

[ernie]

Hey, I just want to point out that by removing Gnome Tweaks, you removed the best tool for keyboard layout modification. It is literally the first tool I use on any new distro (I use it to set a Mac-style keyboard layout), so I was surprised when I didn’t see it here. Can I suggest keeping it available until Refine reaches parity for this feature?

(I know there are command line options, but it’s not ideal.)

[j0rge]

Yeah someone file an issue and I’ll take a look later this weekend.