Just how many of us are there?

You can’t really know where you are going until you know where you have been.

– Maya Angelou

We’ve always strived to be as transparent as we can about all of the stuff we make. Our inability to know just how large our community is is something that has annoyed me for quite some time. However that information must be privacy respecting via an open process so that we can verify what information is being donated.

Fedora counts its users via the countme support. This data is made available to the community but it’s never been in a form that’s easily consumable by folks. (aka it’s a dump of csv files, no charts).

We feel it’s important to know just how many people are using our stuff in anger, so we’ve updated our websites to reflect this data. We’ve always counted pulls, but that’s not as useful as knowing how many live systems there are. Let’s take a look:

First, let’s look at The Blue:

No surprises here, we live in Bazzite’s world. Overall we’re looking at about ~30k weekly devices as a whole. Now let’s see where we stand with our upstream:

February is looking pretty good so far for Team Atomic! Just the kind of juice we need to get ready for Fedora 42!

When we remove Bazzite from the chart we also see that “Aurorafin” is growing, just not at the absurd rate.

Here’s all the data for you to inspect if you so desire. Some of you may have noticed that Bazzite was mentioned in the changelog for Marvel Rivals. We feel that being transparent with the size of our community can help give developers more of an understanding of how many people want to run their games on Linux.

Thanks to @antheas and @kylegospo for the lift on this one!

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Is this on by default? I’m running Bluefin-dx. Reading the fedora countme support page makes it sounds like countme doesn’t work without something extra " this does not work for rpm-ostree based systems as in the default case".

Yes it’s on by default, here’s the rpm-ostree info, I’ve added it to the original post: DNF Count Me support | rpm-ostree

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What an excellent post. Thank you for collecting and visualizing this in such a transparent way. As you say, it really helps to have some data to convince the mainstream to join! Closed projects do this to prove their value (say quarterly results or even on their landing page), it’s funny that open ones often don’t. Once again, ublue is lighting the way. Onwards and upwards!

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I’ve been using Bluefin for quite a while now. Just a user, not a developer. Love it. Haven’t had a single issue with it for many months. A little surprised at the low adoption numbers, but feel honored to be in a select group of users. You guys have pulled together a great platform. Bluefin, long may you run.

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I wonder if it’s possible to hook on to something like KDE’s telemetry gathering, the thing you slide on the welcome screen on first start up.

This is cool to see. I am primarily a traditional Linux distro user, but have been happily using Aurora on my system in my office for dev and business work. Mainly to try it out more for that use case. I would expect Aurora to be a bit higher than it is, to be honest.

In either case, I have been pleased with the quality and stability, and that is despite using the latest dx branch.

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Do you have a breakdown of the sub-editions? GTS vs stable vs latest, DX vs non-dx?

Also do you know approximate numbers for plain Fedora Workstation? Would be interesting to know how adoption of the atomic desktops compares to normal Fedora.

Also do you know approximate numbers for plain Fedora Workstation

It’s in the raw data but when it maps out our images barely show up, we have a ways to go. :smile:

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@j0rge I understood this question as request for weekly pulls data by chanell.

Secondary y-axis is one of the option to display two different magnitudes of data.

This. I’d be interested to know how popular the channels are relative to each other. Is GTS more popular than stable? Is DX more popular than non-DX?

Very nearly installed Bazzite on my new rig (RX7900xt) but the distro was using a older version of the kernel and certain drivers werent available. So installed windows and will re-evaulate Bazzite in a year or so.

I did not expect Bluefin+Aurora to be so low. I’ve had so few problems since switching away from Arch last year.

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They’re not low. There’s just too many Bazzite gamers. :smiley:

You can look at the pulls on a certain date across images: Packages · Universal Blue · GitHub

But we don’t graph that. I think at some point we’ll start doing that, and for Bazzite it’d be nice to chart out devices too!

Survey wise 63% of respondents say they use -dx.

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Unless I’m being a spanner that link doesn’t show GTS vs stable vs latest … ?

Once you dig in you’ll see an ocean of tags, once you get to page two it becomes clear that we need to chart things. But I think the right thing to do would be to ensure that countme is counting the entire image url for an image. That way all images just show up there, then we can make some nice charts.

EDIT: and countme measures devices checking in so it’s a more realistic measure than raw image pulls.

Right, I see it now. Thanks!

Hello everyone. I was using OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for quite some time but decided to go for something immutable. Hands down, Bazzite has been the best and I sincerely appreciate the time the creators put into this project. Keep it up. I will be using for the long term. Will look into donating next.

Speaking of donating, I don’t see how to do this. Am I missing something?