Gnome Software Updates Tab

Is it possible to disable Ublue/Bluefin’s custom auto-updates and re-enable updates in Gnome Software?

Gnome Software also supports auto-updates and covers rpm-ostree, flatpak, and firmware. The reason to prefer this is you can visualize if there are updates, apply them early, or see that there is a pending system update and you should reboot at some point. This combined with built-in notifications is subjectively a better experience compared to ujust update.

I can understand this suggestion because people are used to watching their computer updating itself, but sounds like it would be a step back to how Silverblue does it.

The good thing about Bluefin is you don’t need to run any update commands (not even ujust update). The Universal Blue approach is zero maintenance, so instead of the computer interrupting your work with notifications telling you when to reboot, you tell the computer when you are done using it by turning it off. You can just enjoy using your always-up-to-date computer. :smiley:

If you want to know if a new deployment is staged, you could do rpm-ostree status.
To see what version you currently have, open “About My System” under the logo menu.

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See but now to know about update status you have to dive into the terminal and hunt down information. “zero maintenance” is not true and you’ll never know if your automatic updates aren’t working until your way out of date. I myself have run into the issue were i’m having to manually apply updates because for whatever reason the auto-updates hadn’t been apply flatpak updates and/or firmware updates (seems to be fixed for now though).

I will admit Gnome Software is not perfect and it’s biggest issue is you cannot adjust the auto update frequency from the hard coded 14 day. Though on a nicer side if you don’t like notifications it does have an option to turn those off.

Visualization is key here as not everyone turns their computer off every day. I’m also a big fan of the quote “trust but verify”. Having things be “zero maintenance” is nice but I want to be able to easily, and visually, verify this.

If Gnome Software is a non-starter then maybe something like a Gnome extensions that has the last time auto-updates ran and if there is a pending os update that needs a reboot.

Anyways this is just a though as I hadn’t seen this issue discussed in much depth.

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If you haven’t received an update in 30 days you will receive a notification.

Every time you boot your pc, you can see the current and previous version (deployment) of Bluefin. So you know if there was an update.

Also flatpak apps are updated every 6h and don’t require a reboot. So you would be hard pressed to “apply updates early”.

It also took some time for me to mentally change from Workstation Fedora - reviewing and manually applying updates - to Bluefin, where i just don’t think about updates anymore. And i love that - it saves me so much time :slight_smile:

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It also took some time for me to mentally change from Workstation Fedora - reviewing and manually applying updates - to Bluefin, where i just don’t think about updates anymore

I had to take a different tact here; having the updates happen “seamlessly” in the background was too much of a distraction for me. I kept wondering “did it run already? if I reboot now, will I reset the timer in a way that keeps me from updating again? why does it take so long to install the updates anyway?” :face_with_spiral_eyes:

I switched first from bluefin-dx:latest to a custom build tracking latest and then finally set my build to track stable and run the github action a couple of hours after bluefin:stable so that I could just leave things alone during the week when I need to work, and manually run the updates sunday morning. :relieved_face: