Fast moving, fresh apps and deprecation dilemma

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Sorry that you felt gaslighted, but I just quoted something you said about yourself, and you made it as a general statement, not as pointing to a peculiar change.

It’s been months since the discussion about a Flatpak centric store has been highlighted as something that would be implemented if possible (first with another project named Souk).

Bazaar has not still replaced Gnome Software or Discover. It’s very much included alongside them, as a beta test. How is that not the kind of forewarning you want, I do not get.

Not only are you forewarned, you also get to give feedback to the project. It’s way better that the “hey we have a roadmap for the next cycle, and we will be replacing Gnome Software” messaging which you seem to deplore was not clearly communicated.

Not only are you getting the message clearly, and well in advance, you are also getting the beta to play with! How that could be more transparent, I can’t fathom.

The way the project is going has been made very clear, you get all the tools you need to evaluate it, are even consulted on it, and can still use the tools you have used in the past until the change is made, if it is.

I won’t be continuing this discussion. You went from raising some valid concerns, which were answered by the devs, then started to play the victim and saying you were being gaslighted.

This is not a discussion about Ublue or Bazaar anymore, you made it a discussion about your idiosyncratic needs, and there is nothing for me to say about that except what I already said : if a project does not meet your needs, it just does not.

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Of course I would feel gaslighted when you just dismissed everything else I said, take in a small part of what I said out of the rest of the context, and then I went back to check what is in an official document, in the main website, that is part of a core messaging of what is Universal Blue is supposed to be.

If I am treating the project in a way that it never presented itself as, sure, that’s my fault. But the official document says one thing, and then someone else says, “sounds like an “I don’t want change” you problem.”

This isn’t just about Bazaar. Bazaar is one thing on top of other things. Bazaar is just the last news that came up before I started speaking. I was already thinking about what I wanted to say since the Deprecation post, but I decided it’s not a big deal since it didn’t clash with the official messaging of what Universal Blue is, and I can’t reasonably ask for it reverted since it’s clear that’s what ublue-os would do. But then Bazaar came in, in the announcement thread that is in General category, so naturally I’m confused as to which part of that align with the “sustainability and maintenance” messaging?

If the mission of Universal Blue has changed, or some part is of a higher priority, then make it clear. Maybe it’s just my brain being autistic about it, but I’m not going to let myself be gaslighted into forgetting the issue here.

See, this is why I feel powerless. Sometimes, FOSS project just says, “This is what we’re doing, we’re not changing our mind about it, you can just fork it if you disagree.” Or some variation of “you’re not contributing with code or money, therefore your voice don’t matter.”

I just want to voice my opinion and be heard, but nope. It always comes back to that. Honestly, even a simple, “We will take it into consideration,” would have sufficed.

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“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

– Inigo Montoya

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Do you need to be this snarky?

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Ok this thread has long run its course.